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Originally Posted by Cheyne
So far you've come with d!ck all, and have been left red faced in front of your piers because you "cant be bothered" finding these examples.
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I don't see anyone standing in front of any piers here. A pier is a raised walkway over water. I believe you are thinking of "peers".
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NEWSFLASH: You're not a moderator here Angus. You don't make the rules. You don't tell people what they can, can't, should or shouldn't be doing.
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Newsflash - you are not god's gift to the web hosting industry, and you come across to me as a brash young know it all.
Good for you and congratulations on what you've achieved at a young age. But you could take some lessons in diplomacy and tact. So could Angus for that matter but at least (I think) he realises it and is willing to cop the criticism back the other way. It seems you're not. Oh and why is it that all the ****fights around here seem to involve the same people?
Earlier on you told Angus to take a step back and get on with running his business, I think you should take your own advice.
Now, if you want my opinion on the issues he's raised:
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1. The Predator
Service requests meet with standard responses where the same copy and paste is done in every thread and are followed up with a PM instead of a request for further information or further queries as to the OP's needs in the thread
Ultimately this leads to pressure selling over the phone which is the whole objective - to get the prospect into one on one contact to - close the deal.
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To some degree I agree. If someone requests a quote in public (and doesn't specifically ask for PMs) then why shouldn't they get a quote in public? More to the point isn't it entirely
bad netiquette to private message someone on a forum or in an IRC chatroom without permission? That's what I was always taught anyway, correct me if I'm wrong. It's a different matter if they ask for PMs but if they ask in public they should get a public response, and let's let everyone's offers stand on their own merits. And on the company representative's PUBLIC persona and behaviour.
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2. Masked Nepotism
This is where someone from one organisation posts recommending another organisation as if they are a neutral party when in fact both organisations have a direct relationship with each other.
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Absolutely, it should be banned. And I think if you reported posts that were examples of this, most of the moderators here would remove them... yes?
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3 Incestuous chatter
This is a new one that has raised its head again in the last couple of weeks where multiple employees of the one organisation multiple post in the same thread and start having a public chat about something when they are obviously talking outside the forums about the same thing - the objective of this of course is simply to continue pumping their own logo into threads as many times as possible from multiple employees in an outwardly innocent manner as if they never communicate other than through threads on this forum - spam
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Well now. Let me see, I can think of at least one example that caused a ****fight recently and that was to do with someone's blog post and then someone else (who lives with that person) decided to throw in their two bobs worth and next thing you know the excrement hit the spinning blades. I can't remember the full story but it was annoying and pretty clearly designed to pimp someone's business.
It's difficult though because it's hard to police, as someone who admins on a couple of other forums one mod's views will differ from the next persons. If it was a big issue then perhaps you should point it out to a mod and argue with them about it rather than argue in a thread, it's really difficult to get a good consensus of opinion in a public thread like this... because... everyone has their allegiances under the surface that aren't totally obvious to everyone else.
Me personally.. I will call it like I see it (without prejudice)... hope nobody has a problem with that. Now flame away if you feel the need
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