Dbox. I tend to agre with voxo. Please keep that to yourself.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Voxo. Thanks for your input.

TransACT has two UPSs available to telehousing - one is feed 'A' and the other is feed 'B'. Only the one providing feed 'A' failed.

If you have critical equipment, you can get a feed from each UPS (at a cost of course). We have redundant feeds to our core network, which is why it stayed online (along with networks inside TransACT house with dual feeds including Internode) - but not to all access switches or servers.

They're yet to issue a report as to why UPS 'A' failed.

Ideally each "feed" has at least an N+1 UPS setup to avoid this issue, but at least there's a seperate UPS for each feed.


Regards,

Voxo

That is actually a very good price considering RAID consists of an extra HDD and a RAID card. Total cost to host could be around $500 so charging $35 with a $99 setup fee seems well justified.

Unless it's software RAID and SATA hard disks.

There is nothing 'suspect' about Servers Australia, I'd reconmend them to anybody. Just like any other company, there will always be someone who decides to spill beans when they don't get what they wanted.

Two sides to every story.

How do you GAS SUPRESS fire, in a 'wide floor area of co-location space with basically no solid partitioning' as you put it?

Hi Risbo

I see a lot of words but I am not actually sure what you are saying in response to Voxo

Cheers
Angus

^^^ + 1.

It's hard not to notice the emotion flowing out of your post Risbo. Try to calm down a little.

There are plenty of other data centres of similar size with gas fire supression. I suggest you talk to a fire supression specialist if you are after specific advice.


Regards,

Voxo

Hey Voxo,

Im almost sure that Equinix uses FM-200 & FE227 Gaseous Systems.

When i read through the massive amount of info during the sign up process long time ago this was mentioned.

Also the system is mounted closer to the racks that one might think (when you spend that much time in there you notice these things)

The lack of fire supression system was the key point sales at GS (or the other bodies involved) tried to put me off Equinix and it seems it worked on some

This is the only real fodder they believed they had and i believed i checked all details.

Nothing against GS i mean i have DR stuff there just incase anything happens

Name a few.
And seen as you are our resident fire supression specialist, how about you tell us why? or how?

If Equinix Sydney uses a gaseous fire supression, why is it not advertised at all ever? It's not a great secret that there is no gas fire supression system there, but if you have concrete evidence to the contray, by all means feel free to provide it.


Regards,

Voxo

I dont need to provide you with anything if you need such information you can call them yourself.

You an ex employee or something like that?

This is thread is about ServersAustralia not bashing of datacentres.

I have been using Global Switch for the last 8 months and Equinix for the last 4 years if not longer and can safely say that I wont be moving my equipment to Global Switch anytime soon even when i can save over 4k a month if i did.

Hmm,

Well, despite the fact that this thread is about ServersAustralia I'll throw in a few cents anyways.

Deploying a gas fire suppression system on a large scale is not only extremely expensive but somewhat difficult. This is mainly because the entire room has to be pressurised with gas to achieve it's goal. I don't really care about bagging out specific datacentres but suffice to say that you can expect to pay through the nose for a gas suppression system particularly in a large scale system. Compartmentalised water suppression systems are not as bad as everyone seems to think. The bottom line is, if there's a fire in a datacentre do you not think that the electricity is gonna get cut and other things are gonna be stuffed? Sure, water doesn't mix with equipment but from a DC's perspective, 10 racks of stuffed kit to save another 100+ racks is actually not a bad result. Sure, those 10 customers might be upset but then, tough luck, that's what a disaster recovery site is for right?

On the line of individual UPS feeds. Shaun, dunno man, individual UPS feeds are so 90's. I'm not surprised though, Transact is a decent datacentre but at least when I was there it wasn't overly innovative (ie. everything there was in a book). Before all those trolls jump on the bandwagon, I'm NOT saying Transact has done something wrong, I'm just saying that their approach doesn't seem very 'magical'. iseek at least (at Ipswich Road) has individually breakered, dual fed power feeds (ie. we do 1 feed with redundant 'active' UPS feeds located a level above the customers actual rack). That has caveats too like testing the deadman switch to avoid situations where it doesn't automatically cut over on power failure (we've always maintained such things but I've seen that happen in less 'regularly maintained' DCs [ie. private corporation datacentres]).

Now, BACK onto ServersAustralia. A long time ago when I was working for Aussiehosts we had a server with them (if memory serves me correctly) they only allowed ~1 mbit of throughput. I could definitely be wrong about who it was (Gary would be the one to correct me) though since they appear to be delivered over Inticon paid equinix bandwidth (if a traceroute is anything to go by). Inticon at least used to be a customer of Serverpeak so it's good to see they are coming up in the world.

I think that's about all of my 2c,

Stu

Risbo, who are you? You SEEM to be on a bit of a witchhunt. Can you just get over it or go back to whirlpool or something?

Stu