Web Hosting Talk Australia : General Forums : Lounge Bar : [split thread] data connections

[Brenden]

Originally Posted by markgrinceri

www.hostingwholesaler.com.au (the site is actually still getting built) Parent company is IHOSTING - www.ihosting.net.au

Contact me at mark@ihosting.net.au or sales@ihosting.net.au for more information

I can't help but notice your site appears to be hosted on a ADSL2+ connection.

[markgrinceri]

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[Swish]

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[markgrinceri]

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[Brenden]

Originally Posted by markgrinceri

What?? Where are you getting this bogus information

Happy to be proven wrong

You are more than 2ms from Chime/iiNet/wholeever, if you were in a datacentre this would be less than 1ms and even if a different building in Perth it'd be 3-4ms max NOT 21-35ms like a metro ADSL connection

19 Gi0-1-17.per-qv1-bras2.chime.net.au (203.59.49.78) 94.211 ms 92.556 ms 94.176 ms
20 gateway-wan.ihosting.net.au (203.59.123.72) 113.696 ms !X * 115.485 ms !X

and:
20 97 ms 100 ms 94 ms Gi0-1-17.per-qv1-bras2.chime.net.au [203.59.49.78]
21 115 ms 115 ms 136 ms gateway-wan.ihosting.net.au [203.59.123.72]
22 117 ms 114 ms 117 ms ns1.ihosting.net.au [203.59.123.82]

Reverse DNS:
203.59.123.72 gateway-wan.ihosting.net.au
203.59.123.73 203-59-123-73.perm.iinet.net.au.
...
203.59.123.80 ns1.ihosting.net.au
203.59.123.81 gateway-lan.ihosting.net.au
203.59.123.82 ns1.ihosting.net.au
...
203.59.123.93 office.ihosting.net.au
...

You've been giving a layer 2 service (aka ADSL), otherwise the hop before you would be on a different subnet

It dosn't look like its an ethernet service but rather an ADSL service.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by markgrinceri

Hi Swish

Looks like we both have used a similar template when designing the site. Not much care about really. We both have great taste!!!

Yeah it is a nice

[markgrinceri]

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[Brenden]

Originally Posted by markgrinceri

I guess your never heard of broadband fibre, where they use a DSL type connection for the last mile to reduce cabling cost into a building

You just said you didn't use ADSL now you admit it?

Broadband fiber - blow it out your ass, it dosn't use any DSL/ATM overheads... Broadband fiber is where they delivery the same contentions ratios that are on DSL, but use it to "on net" a building and sell some capacity at a loss to attract users to it.

This is an ADSL service NOT a hosting service. Hosting shouldn't be done on an ADSL service.

[Adam Seliman]

Ok sorry Oz Colocation to quote you.

I can't help but notice your site appears to be hosted on a ADSL2+ connection.

That is the funniest thing i have heard today

[ans_steve]

Not to jump into the argument, but it takes you around Aust to get to you:

1 1 ms 1 ms <10 ms ip-11-241.ans.com.au [203.132.11.241]
2 36 ms 39 ms 39 ms 202.83.68.174
3 34 ms 38 ms 52 ms gw.dsl.apcs.com.au [202.183.109.1]
4 35 ms 36 ms 37 ms 7206-core1.iseek.com.au [202.83.73.1]
5 38 ms 38 ms 37 ms vlan204.14vrc76f06.optus.net.au [61.88.151.13]
6 45 ms 42 ms 37 ms Gi12-0-0.bn1.optus.net.au [202.139.190.162]
7 39 ms 39 ms 38 ms Pos1-0-0.cha2.Brisbane.telstra.net [139.130.3.15
]
8 41 ms 37 ms 42 ms GigabitEthernet1-0.cha-core4.Brisbane.telstra.ne
[203.50.51.1]
9 41 ms 37 ms 35 ms GigabitEthernet0-0-1.woo-core1.Brisbane.telstra.
et [203.50.6.218]
10 50 ms 50 ms 49 ms Pos5-0.ken-core4.Sydney.telstra.net [203.50.6.22
]
11 69 ms 63 ms 65 ms Pos15-0.win-core1.Melbourne.telstra.net [203.50.
.18]
12 61 ms 62 ms 63 ms 10GigabitEthernet9-0.lon-core3.Melbourne.telstra
net [203.50.6.146]
13 77 ms 74 ms 76 ms Pos1-0.fli-core1.Adelaide.telstra.net [203.50.6.
78]
14 105 ms 103 ms 105 ms Pos-channel1.pie-core1.Perth.telstra.net [203.50
6.182]
15 119 ms 102 ms 104 ms GigabitEthernet5-1.pie2.Perth.telstra.net [203.5
.115.203]
16 106 ms 106 ms 105 ms chime8.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.25.42]
17 412 ms 187 ms 109 ms Gi0-1-17.per-qv1-bras2.chime.net.au [203.59.49.7
]
18 125 ms 128 ms 125 ms gateway-wan.ihosting.net.au [203.59.123.72]
19 128 ms 126 ms 135 ms ns1.ihosting.net.au [203.59.123.82]

[markgrinceri]

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[Brenden]

Originally Posted by Adam Seliman

Ok sorry Oz Colocation to quote you.



That is the funniest thing i have heard today

Happy to make your day

[Vantage]

Originally Posted by ans_steve

Not to jump into the argument, but it takes you around Aust to get to you:

Its typical for Perth Data, Your better off being hosted in the states or singapore if your on the east coast because a) your latency is not much differnet b) your gaunteed proper dc controled facilities.

And no i dont mean to be a ***** here, so i'm sorry if i offend people but even people from perth think their data isnt so great unless its from an educational network...

[markgrinceri]

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[Brenden]

Originally Posted by markgrinceri

Never said it was a asymmetric connection like your implying. but I guess you don't know the difference? Time to go back to school.

Ozcolocation most people over estimate there bandwidth requirements, were are not very big, and currently have more than enought to cater for our clients and future client through the use of multihoming and load balancing separate connections

It not cool to attack another webhost, I'll end up doing more damage to your rep and business than good. No body like a wise guy.

-Mark

Why lie in a public forum than? I belive ADSL isn't a sutiable medium for web hosting. Why you make ask? Well not only does it have conention ratios on it but line faults can happen and will affect your customers greatly. No load balancing can avoide that.

I've been doing this a long time so I know my stuff and most around here will agree.