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Old 25-01-2012, 04:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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What is the Difference between cloud hosting and hosting ? So that i can figure out which one to choose according to my need ?
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Hosting is typically on a single stand alone server

Cloud hosting is the same service on a fully redundant and instantly scalable platform - a cloud

Don't be misled by "cloud washing" whereby the word cloud is stuck in front of anything. eg Cloud Linux - while a great product it does not have anything to do with what is known as a cloud platform

If you decide you are going to explore a "cloud hosting" service then be sure and query them about what justifies their naming it "cloud...."

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Old 25-01-2012, 05:23 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Cloud hosting is the same service on a fully redundant and instantly scalable platform - a cloud
To me, the key word here is "service".

You don't just put a static website, or your run of the mill content management onto a true cloud service. As I understand it, you would need to develop the system that powers your website to communicate with the different aspects of the cloud service.

A visualised hosting service that can have it's resources scaled, is also not a cloud service IMO.
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Hi Vee

I said instantly scalable and it is but a single component of a cloud and I recall t4here being a separate thread here on what constitutes a cloud

There is no reason a single site would not or could not go on a true cloud in fact we have many clients who use our cloud for a single site in order to provide it with the redundancy and scalability which come with a cloud VM

The OPs question though referred I believe to shared hosting and the VM the cloud hosting would be offered on would be run by a host as opposed to the site owner

In other words instead of buying or renting a physical server or VPS to offer shared hosting from they would obtain a VM on a cloud and run it from there in exactly the same way, but with all the inherent benefits which come from being on a cloud platform as opposed to a stand alone server

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In other words instead of buying or renting a physical server or VPS to offer shared hosting from they would obtain a VM on a cloud and run it from there in exactly the same way, but with all the inherent benefits which come from being on a cloud platform as opposed to a stand alone server
I'm keen to understand the technical implementation of a cloud by this definition, got any public references?
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Re: What is the Difference between cloud hosting and hosting ?

Gartner is the best resource for that - Gartner Highlights Five Attributes of Cloud Computing
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To be fair, Cloud seems to be a buzzword variant of "cluster"... It just sounds prettier.
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Hi

Hosting is typically on a single stand alone server

Cloud hosting is the same service on a fully redundant and instantly scalable platform - a cloud

Don't be misled by "cloud washing" whereby the word cloud is stuck in front of anything. eg Cloud Linux - while a great product it does not have anything to do with what is known as a cloud platform

If you decide you are going to explore a "cloud hosting" service then be sure and query them about what justifies their naming it "cloud...."

Cheers
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Hi Albator,
I appreciate your answer.
You want to say that cloud hosting is the part of hosting which has some new features from past hosting and Cloud computing and hosting offers much more flexibility. When, I read this article http://cloudcomputing.sys-con.com/node/1792026

I think,"Cloud computing means that staff can access the files and data that they need even when they're working remotely and/or outside office hours.

As long as they can get on the Internet, staff can access information from home, on the road, from clients' offices or even from a smartphone such as a BlackBerry or iPhone. Staff can also work collaboratively on files and documents, even when they're not physically together. Documents can simultaneously be viewed and edited from multiple locations."

According my opinion, Cloud hosting has new features and new application which keeping software up to date.

But I have also read some disadvantage of cloud hosting: "Businesses that implement cloud computing need to take steps to reduce the risk of any Internet interruption or reduced speeds. However, these risks are comparable with servers or computers being out of action for a period of time, which is just as likely, or perhaps more likely to happen, than the Internet failing."

I want hosting services for personal use, not for business. Which one is best for me between cloud hosting and hosting?
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Hi

a Cloud is a platform in a similar way to a single stand a lone server is a platform

This is regardless of what you use it for

In the case of hosting you can have your site hosted on a single stand alone server with no redundancy - the traditional and still most common hosting product

OR

You can have it hosted on a cloud - this means the server/Virtual Machine on which your site is hosted is part of a much larger redundant infrastructure - the cloud

Your site is still hosted on a server it is just it is a virtual as opposed to a physical one and as such it can be instantly or even automatically scaled and benefits from redundancy and failover of hardware that come as part of a Cloud

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I think,"Cloud computing means that staff can access the files and data that they need even when they're working remotely and/or outside office hours.
That is possible on a single stand alone server for example we have Accountants with dedicated physical servers who have multiple clients running their MYOB from them and we have others with physical servers who run their desktops on it

At the same time we have other clients who are doing this or similar from our Cloud platform

One is a Cloud service the other isn't even though the user experience is the same

The same applies to hosting if you are talking about a regular single site you want hosted - you get the same service but the platform from which it is provided and the inherent benefits you receive or miss out on are different

Hope this helps

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Re: What is the Difference between cloud hosting and hosting ?

What is the difference? Nothing!

Its just a marketing term thrown into the industry to create hype (ie sales). Its nothing new, and nothing different.

"cloud" hosting has been around for decades, its only recently that someone came up with a name for it.

On a personal level, i can't stand it and really wish people would drop it. Whats next? Quantum-Parallel-Infrastructure-Cloud-Hosting?

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Hi Seamus

Welcome to WHT AU

Looking forward to many more inciteful and pertinent contributions from you in the future
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ummm, wat?
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ummm, wat?
My thoughts exactly
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Oh ic, you are pro-cloud.

DNW.
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Oh ic, you are pro-cloud.

DNW.
ummm yeah but I am also pro useful, relevant and constructive posting in threads and I really couldn't see the point in yours unless it was in some way to bag the cloud and anyone who has one while your company doesn't
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