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  1. #1
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    Advice about switching away from colocation
    Hi All

    // Long story below, for those without the time here's a TL;DR up front:
    Currently have 2 self-managed collocated servers running a full hosting solution, now want to consider outsourcing via VPS or Dedicated server options. Seeking advice and recommendations.

    // Long version
    I'm one of two owners in a small development company who's been specialising in a solutions built on a specific CMS for over 10 years. We've built a niche client base by offering full CMS support and maintained hosting for our clients. To date we have always run our own servers on Debian and co-located them in Adelaide. We currently run two servers which cover all requirements like mail, DNS, web, database, backups etc.

    We don't have a big cash flow, but enough to pay our bills and make a modest income. We've enjoyed a terrific relationship for many years with a local Debian specialist who's both maintained our systems and worked on solutions of all sorts with us. We paid him a flat monthly fee which worked well for both parties, some months he had to do very little, while at other times he had to respond to emergencies or configure a new solution for us, but it generally panned out well. His now wanting to move on to other things so we need to either replace him or consider other options, thus I'm seeking advice and offers.

    While I liked to flexibility and security of running everything ourselves I can't say I've enjoyed the stress of managing the associated troubles. So I'm now considering outsourcing this but am unsure of how to go about it and if its plausible financially.
    Our boxes run raid 5 with 1TB storage using around 710G currently. We've made everything pretty LXC containerised currently and run one container for mail, another for mysql another for live web, another for development, etc.

    Hoping this community can advise me. Here's the current list of things we do;

    - Manage clients DNS
    - Offer mail accounts
    - MySQL database
    - Nightly backups of files and databases on multiple boxes
    - Git repository hosting
    - Web hosting

    Its 'essential' to us that we remain 100% Australian located, preferably Adelaide but that's less vital if we aren't managing it.

    Appreciate any wisdom offered in how might be able to transition and retain or improve what I provide to my clients.

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    There are plenty of providers that can help you with more colocation or dedicated servers or even a cloud based solution.

    Not sure if you've had much experience with cloud based hosting but I think it is awesome. Being able to spin up virtual machines whenever you need them and then shut them down when you are finished. It makes life easy and very reliable. There's at least 20 public clouds for you to choose from in Australia including our own.

    Dedicated servers can be easier to diagnose problems sometimes because they are so simple but not always setup for failover or fault tolerance.

    It comes down to your budget and what service level you want to offer your customers in the future.

    My recommendation would be cloud because it is so flexible and scable to grow with your needs.

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    Thanks Nigel

    I hadn't considered cloud and I suspect it could create a load of problems because of the complexity of the CMS I use, I don't really want that extra head-ache right now I think.

    I was thinking some kind of reseller program with a provider might work if I can still be the face and support point for my clients.

    Wondering what costs range from, what could I get for $500 a month type range I wonder.

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    What kind of reseller program are you looking at? One where you get a discount for each hosting account? A WHM reseller type setup where you get allocated resources and your create your own hosting accounts?

    With cloud, you won't notice the difference between a cloud server and a dedicated server (unless one is not performing well).

    Also with cloud, you can setup your own virtual data centre. You get allocated a set of resources and you are able to create a number of virtual servers from that. You can increase or decrease resources across your fleet of virtual servers.

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    If I went the reseller route I'd go the WHM route, there wouldn't be enough profit otherwise.

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    There are a few WHM reseller offerings in Australia that could help you out. Our WHM reseller plans are currently under review but will be available very soon (May 15).

    How many sites are you looking at running?

    We've been running for over 17 years so we are quite experienced in hosting.

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    Around 25 or so to start with.

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    I can offer you the following -

    50 cPanels
    50 GB of storage
    500 GB of traffic

    Our servers based in Sydney have -
    - LiteSpeed Enterprise
    - Spam Experts email filtering
    - 24x7 phone and email support
    - CloudLinux
    - Atomicorp Security or CSF tools
    - CloudFlare with RailGun
    - PHP Selector
    - cPanel restore tool so you can restore files yourself
    - Geographically redundant DNS and spam filtering (These store mail until the mail server comes back online so customers don't lose any emails)

    Price: PM'ed
    Last edited by Nigel; 30-04-2014 at 05:19 PM.

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    Thanks Nigel

    That is very compelling, I'll be certainly looking at AVS closely as I consider things. I take it your servers are all Australian located?

    Cheers

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    All our servers are located in Sydney at Global Switch. All servers and switches use HP enterprise gear. Hard drives are all enterprise as well and not consumer grade. Our global DNS and mail runs across 4 continents.

    We are doing the finishing touches on our 10G storage network.

    Our new website will be up and running at the beginning of May.

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    We can help
    Hi,
    Alex from Host In Aus here. We are an IT services and web hosting company based in the south east of Melbourne. We can offer you reseller, VPS or dedicated server hosting.

    Our reseller hosting is on a private cloud, so you get all the benefits of full redundancy and high-availability, for a fraction of the price of VPS hosting. Free daily backups are also included, This is fully managed so you manage your customers and we can do everything else. Our reseller plans start from $30 a month.

    If you are after more than the standard DNS, Mail and web hosting, then we can offer VPS hosting from $30 a month.

    For a more "traditional" solution, we can offer you a managed dedicated server, with daily backup and 4 hour hardware replacement garantee. Dedicated servers start at $250/month with the latest intel hardware and raid disks with 1TB of storage.

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